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#TBT A Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide to Affordable Goodness

#TBT A Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide to Affordable Goodness

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Here it is, our refreshed Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. The possibility of arranging a directional like this sounds venturesome, yet as you’ll see, Seiko makes, and made, a ton of things moderately simple for us. In any case, likewise with everything throughout everyday life, there are admonitions. This guide will not zero in on all Seiko as the years progressed, yet we’ll zero in generally on watch manufacturing plant from the mid-1960’s through the mid-1970’s and pictorially, I’ll highlight some only sometimes seen watch industrial facility to whet your appetite.

Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide

This Seiko 6619-8230 is a masterpiece…large and wonderfully designed!

Here on Fratello, we ran a top to bottom article on Seiko’s vintage Sport Divers and this appeared well and good on the grounds that the watch plant are genuinely energetic, contain turning bezels and different things that gatherers want. We’ve additionally discussed more seasoned (or vintage-propelled) Grand Seiko and King Seiko . That being said, we’ve left out a significant segment of the vintage Seiko inventory during our excursions and this sub-type is in all honesty the “ordinary” assortment. I’ve decided to utilize a portion of these models (indeed, I tossed in a couple of game jumpers with pivoting bezels that I’ve as of late reestablished or that are on their way into the spa) that I’ve gotten over the course of the years as the point of convergence for outlining our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide in light of the fact that so many are anything but regular.

A pair of “Daini” vintage sport jumpers saved and reestablished – a 7019-6030 on the left and a 5126 model on the right.

Seriously Cool Watches

Before we get into the core of the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide, I’d prefer to reroute a piece and think on why a portion of the ordinary Seiko’s are so darn cool and worth your time. On the off chance that you’ll humor me, I’d likewise prefer to clarify how and why I started gathering them.

Here’s a Seiko 6106-8569 with a splendid green dial – note the crazing of the acrylic crystal.

You see, when it went to the 1960’s and 70’s, regardless of whether watch industrial facility came from Switzerland or Japan, there were basin heaps of forgettable mundane dress watch production line I discreetly allude to these as “Poindexter” watch plant since they help me to remember watch plant that a normal office specialist would wear once upon a time with a polyester short-sleeve dress shirt, pocket defender, and glasses. Hello, I’m certain individuals will laugh at us one day for the manner in which we dress today, yet my point is that the style for most ordinary things appeared to be quite utile and absolutely exhausting. Clear? Damnation yes! In any case, they’re totally everyday and places like eBay are covered with these watch processing plant from some truly extraordinary names like Omega, Longines, Tissot, Seiko and others. Indeed, even the fancier names like Girard Perregaux and others got in on the exhausting act.

This Seiko 6119-8490 has one of the coolest vintage Seiko dials I’ve at any point seen. Note the applied “Seiko” and “5” logo alongside the white inward bezel and blue external ring. Magnificent!

But one thing I’ve reliably found with Seiko is that they made some genuinely cool “customary” watch plant close by their blah setup, that rode the line among game and dress – and furthermore added that one thing that was frequently so missing during this period: color.

The enormous cased manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 that cost $25 – it looks fantatsic on a splendid NATO.

This Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide Focuses on the Affordable

Also, as more foundation prior to bouncing into the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide, for what reason did I purchase these not all that lively/not so dressy watch industrial facility Well, I got them for the very reasons that I’ve purchased scads of other Seiko’s in addition to a special reward: these watch production line are bargain basement. The essential explanations behind purchasing any vintage Seiko are straightforward. To begin with, I’m genuinely persuaded that you really need to attempt to murder off a Seiko.

One of the more normal and reasonable Seiko Sport Divers is this 6119-6023.

As my mate Andreas likes to say, old Seikos resemble Toyotas (same country, incidentally) on the grounds that they essentially don’t kick the bucket and they’re not difficult to fix. Second, and we’ve said this so often, however it merits rehashing on the grounds that these are cheap watch industrial facility – Seiko’s quality was basically silly. These watch processing plant were worked with mechanical proficiency – which is as a matter of fact pretty non-attractive compared to the possibility of somebody working away in the slopes of Switzerland – however it has left us for certain incredibly very much protected pieces today. Adding to that, the developments are impenetrable, many have never been reestablished or seen, and still run incredibly well. Plan shrewd, I request that you investigate the subtleties: the hour markers, the case completing, the dials and more in light of the fact that there’s typically undiscovered greatness under the surface the eye. At last, as I’ve referenced, these Seiko’s are modest. I paid between $25 (indeed, truly) and $125 for all that you’ll see here and in uncommon cases, I put another $70-80 of administration on top. In a vintage watch manufacturing plant world gone insane and in another watch industrial facility world loaded up with heaps of $250-300 artificial vintage actors (they’re design watch plant let’s face it), these Seiko’s simply murder it with value.

One of the most common vintage Seiko developments, the 6119, is exhibited inside this beautiful Sport Diver, the 8120.

A Guide to the Guide

Now for some clarification on the most proficient method to utilize this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. From a development point of view, I’ll talk about a portion of the key motors utilized in three-hand watch production line – these were utilized in games watch industrial facility dress watch processing plant and everything in the middle. At the point when we talk about how to “date” a vintage Seiko, discovering gems, and different things, the guide works across all kinds of Seiko’s. Whatever we talk about, if there points that just allude to specific sorts of Seiko’s, I’ll put forth a valiant effort to make a note of it. At long last, as I referenced above, special cases exist – along these lines, when purchasing, ask inside your number one Seiko gathering, for example, the or in case you’re unsure!

A snap back on a manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 from January, 1968.

Understanding Vintage Seiko Nomenclature

I believe it’s fitting to commence our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide with an exercise on naming show. At the point when we talk classification, most (however unquestionably not all as we see on some manual breeze pieces) Seiko’s convey a name utilizing the configuration of “xxxx-yyyy” where both the “x’s” and “y’s” are numbers. The “x’s” for this situation assign a development reference.   This is significant on the grounds that when searching for vintage models, a given development frequently ranges the array of dress to genuine plunge watch plant and just the force plant inside is the equivalent. Additionally, in case you’re keen on a given model, when you start to investigate points of interest, you may even locate that a development – I’m thinking about the consistently well known 6106 programmed – started its creation without hacking or even with a quickset date however not day and afterward progressed a year or two later. Some famous references that current chances are the 5126, 6106, 6119, 6619, and 7019 however this is in no way, shape or form a thorough rundown. When filtering through eBay, you’ll see other well known number quests once you attempt one of the references above, so my recommendation is to get lost down the bunny opening and appreciate the ride – the horde number of varieties will overwhelm you. Likewise, as a little check, look on the dial beneath 6:00 and you’ll discover the development number noted there as well.

The Seiko 5126-8100 from 1979 “just” qualifies as vintage and note that it actually conveys the Daini image on the dial.

When it comes to the model number, or “yyyy”, segment of the name, this is the place where the individual plan is characterized. Seiko was a touch interesting with this in light of the fact that there are once in a while numerous 4-digit codes that reference comparative or same models. It’s alright as Seiko frequently did this to assign models for various business sectors (ex: Japan versus rest of world). On the off chance that you have questions, and this is a decent general guideline for any Seiko, go to Google pictures and type in the complete name of the watch industrial facility (every one of the 8 digits) and guarantee that the watch manufacturing plant you want has the correct case back. Case backs are tradable, so guaranteeing the correct case back is with the correct watch industrial facility is key!

This crude Seiko 6619-8060 from March, 1967 will look incredible after an assistance, new precious stone and a hand relume. These Arabic-dialed ipeces are attractive, yet moderate, as they were mainstream with troopers in Vietnam. Note the covered up crown.

Crowns…a Purposeful Afterthought

Let’s discussion crowns for our Vintage Seiko Buyer’s direct. The positive for inventiveness fanatics on this front is that Seiko didn’t sign them. Then again, Seiko crowns are explicit. They frequently either were curved internal or contained a smooth surface that shows up as a “cap” over the edges. For the watch processing plant we’re examining today, none are screw-down and many are unthinkably little. For what reason would they say they are so little? I’ve referenced this previously, yet it merits rehashing: Seiko was extremely pleased with its “wizardry switch framework”. This framework considered the rotor to wind the fountainhead when turning one or the other way and, thusly, Seiko was of the assessment that the client should “set it and fail to remember it”. Going above and beyond, none of the vintage Seiko automatics can be hand wound – so the crown isn’t a frequently utilized control.

A 7006-8059 bought for about $45. Of course, it needs a precious stone, however it runs perfectly.

Acrylic or Hardlex, it’s Crystal Clear

Crystal-wise, vintage Seiko’s accompanied either Seiko’s own Hardlex mineral glass or acrylic. Discovering the model number – as beat up and unsalvageable precious stones are a lot of typical when finding great arrangements – is a breeze with this . Just enter the full model number and you’ll get the precious stone part number. At that point, head over to eBay or the available to be purchased board on your #1 Seiko discussion and except if it’s something genuinely odd, you’ll probably discover one quickly for about $10. As referenced, awful gems are exceptionally typical on old Seiko’s as most past proprietors never had interest in fixing what was a somewhat economical watch production line But – it’s probably the best tip I can give in this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide; never let an awful gem prevent you from purchasing a generally incredible watch!

Despite some harsh cases and wabi, both of these pieces would look incredible on a provincial lash or NATO.

“Wabi-Sabi” – a Must in any Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide

Time to talk dials and hands… Older Seiko’s are acclaimed for acquiring what gatherers note as “wabi-sabi”. In Seiko talk, this typically implies patina x 10. These stunning Japanese watch plant regularly spent a ton of time in muggy conditions weren’t overhauled and dampness advanced into the watch industrial facility Oddly enough, dampness didn’t stop most old Seiko’s nevertheless it made some odd maturing on the lume and hands to the point that some look out and out parasitic! The wild thing with Seiko’s is that a few group love a great deal of funk and some don’t. Thus, on the off chance that you don’t adore it, continue to move, however except if the development is a rust snare, don’t be astounded if the old monster ticks on dependably after a straightforward service.

The “Suwa” image as seen working on it back of a Seiko 6119-8400 from March, 1970.

Some more tips are all together on the restorative side for this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide. It genuinely pays to do your examination with regards to hands. Quite possibly the most common slip-ups I find in vintage Seiko are erroneously supplanted hands. Finding right hands can be a genuine test, so I normally leave. Goodness, one other tip for great measure. See that astounding little image above 6:00? In the event that it would seem that a hash sign that is shifted 45 degrees, it’s from Seiko’s “Suwa” or “first” factory.

A take a gander at the rear of 7006-8059 model from July of 1972. Note the “Daini” industrial facility image on the back.

If it would seem that a sideways lightning jolt, it’s from the “Daini” or “second” factory.   A great truth is that these locales both planned and delivered extraordinary developments! I’ve noticed that Daini pieces are harder to discover and frequently have a crown at 3:00 rather than the typical 4:00. Likewise, Daini watch manufacturing plant regularly change date by means of pulling out and turning the crown while Suwa pieces normally permit the change to happen by more than once pushing the crown inwards and permitting it to spring back.

A take a gander at the rear of the Seiko Sportsmatic 6619-8060 from March, 1967. As this is a “earlier” vintage piece, it comes up short on a Suwa or Daini logo working on this issue back.

Intelligent Numbers – Dating your Seiko

What would the Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide be without a tip on dating your new/old watch production line Well, here once more, Seiko simplifies everything. A brief glance at the back will yield a chronic number that is regularly 6 digits. The main digit reveals to us the time of creation and the subsequent number discloses to us the month. On the off chance that you know the decade, you’re good to go – it’s that easy!

A Seiko 6119-8300 “Rally Diver” needing an assistance and gem. This was a $70 find on a truly alluring watch production line – note the blurred yet unique bezel.

Sometimes it Pays to Scrape the Bottom of the Barrel

Now, I’ll share some emotional counsel inside this Vintage Seiko Buyer’s Guide on condition and valuing. Reliable with my comment above about gem condition, I like discovering “hidden treasures”. I don’t care for beat up watch production line however it is entirely expected to discover attractive Seiko’s with heaps of wrist DNA and really terrible lashes connected to them that regularly bring down a listing.

Another common development is the impenetrable 6106. Here it is found on the energetic 8237 from the last part of the 60’s/mid 70’s. This one has its unique bracelet.

On the note of extras, I seldom care about arm bands and would scarcely pay more for an alleged unique one on a watch industrial facility since they’re frequently extended, wobbly or – peculiarly – monstrous. I additionally seldom care about whether a 3-gave Seiko is operational in light of the fact that they are on the whole repairable. The solitary exemptions for the standard are with chronographs (can be fixed, however it adds a proportion of trouble), jumpers that are missing bezels, or jumpers where the inner bezels presently don’t turn. I likewise avoid watch processing plant with absent or wrong hands since life is too short to even consider looking and – typically – there are other watch manufacturing plant out there to select.

This Seiko 66-7109 with unique dots of rice arm band and manual breeze development isn’t gigantic however is a “blast from the past” with its creation during the 1970’s.

Vintage Seiko – a Great Alternative to Faux Retro Watches

When it comes to evaluating, I can reveal to you that I spent close to $125 for any of these watch manufacturing plant It is entertaining on the grounds that you will frequently see comparative models selling for a wide scope of costs – it’s simply the way that it goes and I regularly can’t clarify it! Coming back to a model on this page, the manual breeze Seiko “Athlete” model has a chrome case, however it cost an astounding $25, continues to stun time and is an enormous watch plant Speaking of size, these pieces are above 36mm and some command fundamentally more space on the wrist. As far as I might be concerned, that makes them exceptionally wearable as ordinary pieces. Besides, note the rich cluster of tones and one can perceive how 5-10 of these could without much of a stretch discover their way to your collection.

The Seiko 6119-8400 from the front. Simply see that dial and the tender loving care. Attempt and discover something Swiss for $100 that resembles that!

As referenced, head over to eBay and kill an hour taking a gander at huge numbers of vintage Seiko’s. Indeed, many will come from the Far East, however the costs frequently make the danger advantageous. Numerous companions of mine are fanatic Swiss watch industrial facility fans and they unobtrusively decline to go down the Seiko way. Perhaps this is on the grounds that these Japanese watch plant are all over the place – I like to believe it’s their incredible form quality – or in light of the fact that they come up short on a portion of the conventional styling found on Swiss watch plant I don’t know of the multitude of reasons, but rather I do imagine that on the off chance that you reject adding a pleasant vintage model from one of the world’s generally imaginative and effective watch industrial facility companies, you’re passing up a genuine chance. In addition, they’re frequently modest! I trust you delighted in this “starter” take a gander at a Vintage Seiko Buyers Guide. Don’t hesitate to add your tips beneath or a few pics of a portion of your number one deal exemplary Seiko’s! Appreciate the hell out of your hunt!

A Seiko 6119-8300 “Rally Diver” needing an assistance and precious stone. This was a $70 find on a truly attractive watch processing plant – note the blurred however unique bezel. A gander at the rear of the Seiko Sportsmatic 6619-8060 from March, 1967. As this is a “earlier” vintage piece, it comes up short on a Suwa or Daini logo working on this issue back. This crude Seiko 6619-8060 from March, 1967 will look incredible after a help, new gem and a hand relume. These Arabic-dialed ipeces are alluring, yet reasonable, as they were well known with warriors in Vietnam. Note the shrouded crown. One of the more normal and reasonable Seiko Sport Divers is this 6119-6023. Quite possibly the most common vintage Seiko developments is displayed inside this ravishing Sport Diver, the 8120. Notwithstanding some unpleasant cases and wabi, both of these pieces would look extraordinary on a natural tie or NATO. A couple of “Daini” vintage sport jumpers safeguarded and reestablished – a 7019-6030 on the left and a 5126 model on the right. A snap back on a manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 from January, 1968. The huge cased manual breeze Seiko 6602-9981 that cost $25 – it looks fantatsic on a brilliant NATO. The Seiko 5126-8100 from 1979 “just” qualifies as vintage and note that it actually conveys the Daini image on the dial. A 7006-8059 bought for about $45. Certainly, it needs a precious stone, yet it runs consummately. A glance at the rear of 7006-8059 model from July of 1972. Note the “Daini” production line image on the back. This Seiko 66-7109 with unique dabs of rice arm band and manual breeze development isn’t tremendous however is a “blast from the past” with its creation during the 1970’s. Here’s a Seiko 6106-8569 with a splendid green dial – note the crazing of the acrylic gem. Another extremely common development is the impenetrable 6106. Here it is found on the lively 8237 from the last part of the 60’s/mid 70’s. This one has its unique wristband. The “Suwa” image as seen looking into it back of a Seiko 6119-8400 from March, 1970. This Seiko 6119-8490 has one of the coolest vintage Seiko dials I’ve at any point seen. Note the applied “Seiko” and “5” logo alongside the white internal bezel and blue external ring. Brilliant! The Seiko 6119-8400 from the front. Simply see that dial and the scrupulousness. Attempt and discover something Swiss for $100 that resembles that!

*This control showed up first on November 24, 2016 and has been refreshed since.